Zhang and Zhang comment that evaluation bias applied to a data miner changes how we assess the value of the learned theory. Menzies et.al. report success with defect predictors that achieve probabilities of detection (pd) and probabilites of false alarms (pf) of 71% and 23% (respectively). This results seem usefully high, but when they are re-expressed in terms of precision, a different picture emerges (precisions ranging from